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Acknowledging Compulsion: Staying on the Path of the Seeker

2026

Conversation · 36:11 · without SHAPE without FORM · Recorded conversation

without SHAPE without FORM With Ishmael Butler · With Deep K Kailey Watch on YouTube ↗

With Ishmael Butler, in conversation with Deep K Kailey, recorded ahead of their TOTAL RESPONSE performance in New York — on evolving the work and naming the unnamed.

What keeps you on the path when the world tries to pull you away? Ahead of their TOTAL RESPONSE performance in New York, artist Nirbhai (nep) Singh Sidhu and musician Ishmael Butler join Deep K Kailey to explore the compulsion that drives the seeker.

They discuss the bravery required to evolve your art in a world that demands consistency, and the challenge of naming the unnamed — the realisation that by the time an artwork is defined, the maker has already moved on to the next.

Ishmael Butler is a Grammy-winning musician and pioneer (Digable Planets, Shabazz Palaces), celebrated for his experimental approach to sonic architecture.

Synopsis: without SHAPE without FORM, 10 May 2026